[CAUT] Experiment success!

[Paul T Williams]

Jim,  These hammers won't last a year or two anyway!  They are quite worn 
out, so I thought there would be nothing to lose.  If they clog up right 
away, then they will be summer project number 1!!!
The other question arising is whether the chemicals in Downy will be 
corrosive to the strings.  That would not be good, however, they are 
pretty old as well. The bottle only states the ingredients as 
"biodegradable fabric softening agents (cationic)" (whatever that 
means!)..   :>()

Paul





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List,

I think I read an article about Downy softener that said the long term
effect wasn't good. It seems it kind of "clogged up" the hammer so
future voicing was not possible. Anyone know about the long term effect?
(Within a couple of years) The Pianotek stuff isn't supposed to have
adverse effects. I've used it occasionally on marginal hammers with
success.

Jim Busby BYU

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Willem Blees
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:26 PM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Experiment success!

Not only is Downey less expensive, it probably smells a lot better 
than the hammer softener from Piantek. BTW, does anyone know the 
ingredients of this stuff?

Wim
Willem Blees, RPT
Piano Tuner/Technician
School of Music
University of Alabama
Tuscaloosa, AL USA
205-348-1469

Quoting Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>:

> Hi all
> 
> Just wanted to give you an update on my hammer softener experiment. 
> It 
> ended up being a tie between the Downy softener and the hammer
> softener 
> from Protek.  Since most of the pianos I worked on have Abel and
> Renner 
> hammers, steaming didn't have a huge effect.  One M&H model A's
> hammers 
> are so badly worn (not even enough felt left to file!) that even the
> 
> softeners didn't do very much.  It's now slated for an action
> overhaul 
> this summer.( Abel or Renner? Hmmmmmmm...)
> 
> So for cost analysis, the hammer softener is about 75 cents per ounce
> and 
> the Downy/Alcohol is about 15 cents/ounce!  No brainer.  Time will
> tell 
> which will last the longest. 
> 
> BTW, The mineral spirits ended up working just fine on the Steinway 
> finish.
> 
> On to new challenges!
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> Hei, Hei!
> 
> Paul





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