[CAUT] lacquor

[Horace Greeley]

Hi, Chris,

At 07:13 AM 6/16/2006, you wrote:
>Horace, Kent Webb told me the stuff they sell to us techs now is the stuff
>from Seagraves.

Yes, thanks!  After posting, I found an earlier EM about that.

>I agree with you about alternatives although if you ever
>anticipate using keytop then it is best to be consistent and us acetone as a
>thinner for both lacquer and keytop material.

Hmmm...I disagree, but then, I think that the acetone/keytop stuff is 
highly overrated.  It's good for fast and dirty, which is why it was 
originally introduced (and, not in the C&A department).  Tonally, 
it's a mess.  Moreover, with either lacquer or plastic, acetone burns 
off too quickly to give really good saturation...but, I do recognize 
that this is very much a minority view.

Best.

Horace



>Chris Solliday
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Horace Greeley" <hgreeley at stanford.edu>
>To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
>Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:17 AM
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] lacquor
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi, Debra & Chris,
> >
> > Unless things have changed a great deal, the stuff sold from S&S is
> > automotive (often acrylic) lacquer.  It mixes well enough with other
> > lacquers which may have been applied, less well with keytop.  Depending on
> > the circumstance, I would suggest using lacquer thinner, rather than
> > acetone.  While the thinner will certainly take longer to evaporate, it
> > will do a better job of mixing in with whatever is already extant.
> >
> > If you are starting out with a fresh set of hammers, and are not used to
> > using lacquer, I would suggest using white lacquer sanding sealer, again
> > with lacquer thinner.  Sanding sealer tends to break down more quickly,
> > and, _generally_ will not develop the dreaded crunch avoided by so many
> > folks.
> >
> > The availablility of real nitrocellulous might also be a function of where
> > you live, as well.  It has been easier to find in some states than in
> > others.
> >
> > If you want more, write me directly.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Horace
> >
> >
> > Quoting Chris Solliday <solliday at ptd.net>:
> >
> > > Debra, If you are looking for enough lacquer to voice with, Steinway
> > > Parts has it. I think they sell a gallon at a time, if I remember right,
> > > which for voicing is practically a life time supply, except there is a
> > > shorter shelf life than our lives. Otherwise you will find it comes in
> > > large quanities for finishing. I have, in a pinch, used acrylic lacquer
> > > sold in auto supply stores but it is probably not the best for mixing
> > > with other lacquer already in the hammer. I must say though that the few
> > > sets of hammers I used it on sounded and continue to sound as good (3-4
> > > years later) as any, despite predictions to the contrary.  But really
>the
> > > right thing is to use the Steinway lacquer. Around here we try and go in
> > > together 2, 3, or 4 people at a time and share the order, mostly because
> > > of the shelf life issue. Someone else can provide better advice
>regarding
> > > finishing supplies as I don't do any big stinky jobs like that.
> > > Chris Solliday
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Debra Feiger
> > >   To: caut at ptg.org
> > >   Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:08 PM
> > >   Subject: [CAUT] lacquor
> > >
> > >
> > >   I'm having trouble finding nitrocellulous lacquor in paint stores.
>Can
> > > someone tell me where I might find it?  Thanks
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