[CAUT] Differences?

[David Love]

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Unfortunately, you didn't read the entire statement or didn't read it
carefully enough (is that a male thing?).  The Kafkaesque direction that
this dialogue is going forces me to clarify lest someone haul me before =
the
PC court based on your erroneous elaboration of my points.  (Didn't' I =
say
this was a slippery slope.)  Clearly the gender of any individual has
nothing to do with their potential to become a piano technician, doctor,
getting a 3.95 GPA, or even playing on the PGA tour-wow!  I was simply
saying that we (humanity-that includes men and women together as one =
group)
are not all born with the same innate abilities as our obsession with
equality sometimes forces us to believe.  In addition and separate from
that, there are gender differences.  How about that!  There tend to be
differences between men and women.  Not a profound statement-or a sexist
one, I might add.  As in any statistical analysis, you can't draw
conclusions about any one individual based on bell shaped curves or =
standard
deviations.  It's just information.  Unfortunately, information is too =
often
subject to misinterpretation.  =20

David Love
davidlovepianos@comcast.net=20

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From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of =
Keith
Roberts
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:16 PM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Differences?

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Sorry, that's the way I read it.

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Keith

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From: David <mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net>  Love=20

To: 'College and University <mailto:caut@ptg.org>  Technicians'=20

Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:59 PM

Subject: RE: [CAUT] Differences?

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No, that's not what I said.  We are not all equal.  There are gender
differences.  Two separate statements.

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David Love
davidlovepianos@comcast.net=20

-----Original Message-----
From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of =
Keith
Roberts
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:27 PM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Differences?

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I don't agree with Roger, we're not all equal-at least not in innate
ability, and there are gender differences (thankfully).  David Love
davidlovepianos@comcast.net=20

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David, you make it sound as if the differences in innate ability are due =
to
gender differences. Innate ability has nothing to do with gender. I =
agree
with Jeanne that women are intimidated not to try as children because  =
the
assumptions society forces on them makes it so difficult to succeed. =
There
are just as many women as men out there that can be a complete =
technician.
There are some physical differences such as upper body strength and =
average
size but they have nothing to do with whether or not a person can figure =
out
the adjustments on a piano action or voice a hammer. My mother was 17 =
when
she entered UC Berkeley and graduated in three years, Phi Beta Kappa, a =
3.95
grade average. She wanted to be an engineer but that was not allowed in
1939. My Aunt Carol was the first woman to be admitted to the med school =
she
went to and became a physician in 1952. I have heard complaints of the
difficulty to get an education as a piano technician, particularly for
women. I assume this to be because it is a male dominated mentor sort of
education system that makes assumptions about the innate ability of =
women
and what they can or cannot do. Hey, get me a cup of coffee.

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Keith Roberts

kpiano@goldrush.com=20


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