[CAUT] Hot Hide glue woes (??)

John Ross jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:41:47 -0400


I seem to recollect, that Behlen, had some good quality hide glue.
Available at http://www.stewmac.com/
Then go to glues and adhesives, then glue pot, then you will see the 
Behlen hide glue.
$14.82 a pound, and they call it Luthier's Glue

Their catalogue, has some different tools in it, for instrument makers
John M. Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michelle Stranges" <stranges@Oswego.EDU>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Hot Hide glue woes (??)


> :o
>
> It was  10 years ago when I worked in NYC and had that nice clear 
> Pianotek glue.
> That was the glue hue I was looking for!!
>
> THANK YOU FRED!
>
> :)
> Michelle
> On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Fred Sturm wrote:
>
>> Hi Michelle,
>>     Pianotek's hide glue was beautifully clear and yellow about ten 
>> years ago. More recently it has been a bit more on the brown side. 
>> Not as murky as what I used to get from APSCO, but in that 
>> direction. I don't think it is a real problem in terms of function  - 
>> maybe a wee bit weaker, but not significantly. The clear yellow  was 
>> extraordinarily pure. I showed some to a violin maker I know,  and he 
>> was amazed and had to get some right away (I referred him to 
>> Pianotek). More recently he has been complaining that it isn't as 
>> good now.
>>     Of course, if you have high humidity, you can get various 
>> microorganisms infecting it, even during storage when dry. That can 
>> cause cloudiness and stink (and how!) if it gets acute. If you  don't 
>> have bad smell, it's more likely impurities in the glue.
>> Regards,
>> Fred Sturm
>> University of New Mexico
>> fssturm@unm.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Michelle Stranges wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It's much darker. Sometimes even "cloudy".
>>> Looks like melted caramel- the cubed kind that you buy in the 
>>> grocery store.
>>>
>>> I have worked with glues that seemed much "clearer" than the stuff 
>>> I have been getting.
>>>
>>> :)
>>> michelle
>>> On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:20 PM, David Love wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> What did it look like?
>>>>
>>>> David Love
>>>> davidlovepianos@comcast.net
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On  Behalf 
>>>> Of
>>>> Michelle Stranges
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:01 AM
>>>> To: College and University Technicians
>>>> Subject: [CAUT] Hot Hide glue woes (??)
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks..
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if I could get some feedback on the  characteristics 
>>>> of
>>>> the glue *you* use.
>>>>
>>>> I love hot hide glue (who doesn't??) but I am having concerns that
>>>> mine doesn't  "look" nice.
>>>>
>>>> Now this *ain't* some girly thing- I just wonder if I've got
>>>> something weird here.
>>>>
>>>> They say in the directions that it should look.. you know... kinda
>>>> transparent, healthy (sorry I don't have them with me)
>>>>
>>>> While I *do* feel the glue I mix is gonna do it's job- it just
>>>> doesn't LOOK good.
>>>> The batch I've been working with- in no way is it transparent and a
>>>> light caramel color.
>>>> I have tried spirng water in exachange for regular tap water, clean
>>>> jars and brushes and Voodoo chants.
>>>>
>>>> It still looks not like it should.
>>>>
>>>> This has happened a couple of times and I even called Pianotek and
>>>> they gladly sent me some more to replace.
>>>>
>>>> What color is your parachute?
>>>> (and glue??)
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Strange is
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