Leslie- Get Behlen's Super Blonde Shellac Flakes and a bottle of anhydrous alcohol at a woodworking supply store. Get a hypo-oiler at the woodworking store or from Schaff. Then read my post of May 20th, and Susan's 2 subsequent posts. Don't mix very much. The dry flakes will last indefinately, solutions, not. Ed S. > [Original Message] > From: Leslie Bartlett <l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net> > To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> > Date: 5/23/2005 6:17:00 PM > Subject: RE: [CAUT] Self voicing hammers/work hardening > > Where does one get either the flakes, or the lacquer sanding sealer? > > Then, is there someone who would risk giving me a short-course in doping > hammers? I've voiced down, never "up", though if I had about three or four > questions answered I could probably learn it as I tend to be overly cautious > in most things I do, so I have seldom overdone anything... > les bartlett > > -----Original Message----- > From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of > Horace Greeley > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:03 PM > To: College and University Technicians > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Self voicing hammers/work hardening > > > > Barbara, Susan, > > You can get very similar response/workability from using lacquer sanding > sealer, too. If thinned with acetone to something like 10:1 > (thinner:sanding sealer), multiple applications may be made. And, it, too, > breaks down over time. > > The only objection I have every heard to using shellac (which I do think > works very well, and which, historically, is what S&S hammers were hardened > with in the days when varnish finishes were being used) is that it can > "discolor" the hammers. Who cares? What matters is the tone and response, > yes? > > Best. > > Horace > > > At 01:52 PM 5/23/2005, you wrote: > >Hey Susan, > > > >Great advice--though you'd never have to worry about me lacquering the heck > >out of hammers. If they call me, this could turn out to be the first > >time in my life I've worked on Steinway hammers that *weren't* lacquered to > >death (but, I'm pretty good at working with the ones that have been!). > > > >By the by, where do you get your shellac flakes--paint store, word working > >store, internet? I have also experienced the phenomenon of keytop/acetone > >disappearing--maybe because I don't use a strong concentration and/or very > >much of it, either. > > > >Barbara Richmond > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Kline" <skline@peak.org> > >To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org> > >Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 3:15 PM > >Subject: Re: [CAUT] Self voicing hammers/work hardening > > > > > >>Hi, Barbara > >> > >>Maybe there's an intermediate course to pursue, in between waiting years > >>for playing the > >>Steinway to brighten up the treble, and lacquering the heck out of it, > >>which would > >>make you more trouble later on, and less variety of tone. > >> > >>A local church bought a brand new S&S B (yes! nice donor!!), and they had > >>University > >>piano majors come in and practice on it. Still, the voicing was a little > >>off, erratic, > >>not matching well between registers. When I started looking after it, I > >>filed a dab, > >>gave it hard tunings, and they started playing concerts on it, concerts by > >>pianists > >>who (while classical and unamplified) certainly didn't hold back on > >>volume. In a > >>year or two, it became very pleasant indeed, and without hardeners other > >>than > >>whatever was put in when it arrived. Now, of course, I'm working on duplex > >>zings. > >> > >>Perhaps your church could get people to practice Liszt (or Rachmaninoff or > >>Prokofiev) > >>on it, and you might use a little bit of shellac just behind the strike > >>point in > >>the capo areas if it still seems hopelessly fluffy. The shellac breaks > >>down over > >>time instead of just getting harsher and harsher -- so as the playing in > >>achieves > >>its aims, the shellac bows out. I would use ultra-blonde flakes dissolved > >>in 190 proof > >>ethyl alcohol, so that it dries very fast and the color isn't too > >>obnoxious. > >>A fairly dilute cut. Be sure to keep the bottle closed so that water > >>doesn't > >>get into it from the air. Shelf life isn't indefinite, though longer than > >>the > >>hardware store shellac, which I wouldn't use. > >> > >>Well, ... it might work? Practice with the shellac on a piano with old > >>hammers? It's what I'd > >>think of doing, anyway. > >> > >>Susan > >>_______________________________________________ > >>caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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