[CAUT] International standard?

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:01:17 -0700


POWER TO THE TUNER!   RIGHT ON!

David I.



----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: Chris Solliday <solliday@ptd.net>
To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org>
Received: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:22:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [CAUT] International standard?


>Well, I think it's time we took a stand. 440 is high enough. Enough tension
>in the world, etc. IMHO we as tuners have some clout and we ought to use use
>it. Chris Solliday
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Fred Sturm" <fssturm@unm.edu>
>To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] International standard?


>> Another bit of info, FWIW, from the International Organization of
>> Standardization (generally uses ISO as its international acronym),
>> www.iso.org
>> "ISO 16:1975 Specifies the frequency for the note A in the treble stave
>and
>> shall be 440 Hz. Tuning and retuning shall be effected by instruments
>> producing it within an accuracy of 0,5 Hz."
>>
>> Who is ISO? This is how they describe themselves:
>>
>> "ISO is a network of the national standards institutes of 150 countries,
>on
>> the basis of one member per country, with a Central Secretariat in Geneva,
>> Switzerland, that coordinates the system.
>>
>> "ISO is a non-governmental organization: its members are not, as is the
>case
>> in the United Nations system, delegations of national governments.
>> Nevertheless, ISO occupies a special position between the public and
>private
>> sectors. This is because, on the one hand, many of its member institutes
>are
>> part of the governmental structure of their countries, or are mandated by
>> their government. On the other hand, other members have their roots
>uniquely
>> in the private sector, having been set up by national partnerships of
>> industry associations.
>>
>>  "Therefore, ISO is able to act as a bridging organization in which a
>> consensus can be reached on solutions that meet both the requirements of
>> business and the broader needs of society, such as the needs of
>stakeholder
>> groups like consumers and users."
>>
>>     As I understand this, standards set by ISO are commonly adhered to,
>but
>> have no force of law (well, there are probably exceptions). In the case of
>> musical pitch, my own take on the current situation is that practically
>> speaking 442 has become the international standard by virtue of the major
>> manufacturers of percussion and winds making it their default pitch. They
>> have responded, presumably, to international market forces. There is more
>> demand for instruments at 442 than at 440.
>>     It doesn't really matter to me what the standard is, as long as it is
>> reliably standard. Unfortunately we live during a period when the standard
>> seems to be in flux. Fortunately there is less flux now than during many
>> periods in the past.
>> Regards,
>> Fred Sturm
>> University of New Mexico
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/05 1:42 PM, "Fred Sturm" <fssturm@unm.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > I just found this, which confirms the Goebbels connection
>> > <http://groups.msn.com/Todakcrew/musicarticles.msnw>:
>> > The first effort to institutionalize A=440 in fact was a conference
>> > organized by Joseph Goebbels in 1939, who had standardized A=440 as the
>> > official German pitch. Professor Robert Dussaut of the National
>Conservatory
>> > of Paris told the French press that: ``By September 1938, the Accoustic
>> > Committee of Radio Berlin requested the British Standard Association to
>> > organize a congress in London to adopt internationally the German Radio
>> > tuning of 440 periods. This congress did in fact occur in London, a very
>> > short time before the war, in May-June 1939. No French composer was
>invited.
>> > The decision to raise the pitch was thus taken without consulting French
>> > musicians, and against their will.'' The Anglo-Nazi agreement, given the
>> > outbreak of war, did not last, so that still A=440 did not stick as a
>> > standard pitch.
>> >
>> > A second congress in London of the International Standardizing
>Organization
>> > met in October 1953, to again attempt to impose A=440 internationally.
>This
>> > conference passed such a resolution; again no Continental musicians who
>> > opposed the rise in pitch were invited, and the resolution was widely
>> > ignored. Professor Dussaut of the Paris Conservatory wrote that British
>> > instrument makers catering to the U.S. jazz trade, which played at A=440
>and
>> > above, had demanded the higher pitch, ``and it is shocking to me that
>our
>> > orchestra members and singers should thus be dependent upon jazz
>players.''
>> > A referendum by Professor Dussaut of 23,000 French musicians voted
>> > overwhelmingly for A=432.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Fred Sturm
>> > University of New Mexico
>>
>>
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