With increased UPS/fuel costs, I am now investigating doing these myself, too. While you are all on keytops.... How do you remove old keytops and plane if needed? Do most of you still use the rotating plane chucked in a drill press or routers? Randy Potter sells a $300 jig to plane the tops off, wood, front and top with a router. Bill Spurlock made his own that he sent me pics of. Thanks very much. Lance Lafargue, RPT LAFARGUE PIANOS New Orleans Chapter, PTG 985.72P.IANO llafargue@charter.net www.lafarguepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jim Busby Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:00 PM To: College and University Technicians Subject: RE: [CAUT] more on notching Alan, Do you have a left hand upcut bit? That's what I've heard is best and I've never tried one. (I'm not "up" on the different kinds of bits.) I've only used a straight bit and I go SLOW. It works, but chips if you go even a little too fast. Jim -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan McCoy Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:11 PM To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> Subject: Re: [CAUT] more on notching Hey, I just looked at the bit in my machine, and lo and behold it is a spiral fluted bit! Darn. And I was looking forward to the trip. Yes, spiral fluted is what he's referring to. Alan > From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> > Reply-To: <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>, "College and University Technicians > <caut@ptg.org>" <caut@ptg.org> > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:11:47 -0700 > To: <caut@ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] more on notching > > I was re-reading Bill Spurlock's article last night and he recommends the > spiral bit...is that the same as a spiral flute bit? > > David I. > > > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: Alan McCoy <amccoy@mail.ewu.edu> > To: College and University Technicians " <caut@ptg.org> <caut@ptg.org> > Received: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:34:59 -0700 > Subject: Re: [CAUT] more on notching > > >> Thanks for that tip Stan. Guess it's time for another visit to a favorite >> place - the power tool store. > >> Alan > > >>> From: Stan Kroeker <stan@pianoexperts.mb.ca> >>> Organization: @shaw.ca >>> Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org>" <caut@ptg.org> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:13:06 -0500 >>> To: "College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org>" <caut@ptg.org> >>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] more on notching >>> >>> Alan, >>> >>> You're right ... chipping, while cutting the notch, is an occasional >>> annoyance that is usually fixable with a hand file. However, I recently >>> swapped my tired old straight-flute for a spiral-flute bit. Does the >>> old expression ... 'like a warm knife through butter' bring about a >>> welcome image? Try it ... these bits aren't that expensive and are >>> simply perfect for this application. >>> >>> BTW David, in the entire keytopping procedure, the hand file does not >>> make an appearance until the final 20 minutes or so. It is used only to >>> take the sharp edges off the machine-trimmed plastic. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Stan >>> >>> Alan McCoy wrote: >>>> Not at all David. The router is mounted in a router table with a 3/8" >>>> straight bit. The key is on its side on top of the jig with notch down. >>>> Then >>>> you slide the jig over the bit with the straight side of the bit defining >>>> the "head" side of the notch and the top of the bit defining the "tail" >>>> side >>>> of the notch. Once you have set up the jig, about 3-5 minutes, this is >>>> foolproof. The only problems you'll have are some minor chipping that can >>>> happen (speed and direction of feed are key here as Spurlock discusses in >>>> the article). This is truly minor and easily tauched up when doing the >>>> final >>>> hand filing. >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> >>>>> Reply-To: <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>, "College and University Technicians >>>>> <caut@ptg.org>" <caut@ptg.org> >>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:19:50 -0700 >>>>> To: <caut@ptg.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] notching >>>>> >>>>> But isn't the corner of the notch rounded, necessitating squaring with a >>>>> file? >>>>> >>>>> David I. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >>>>> From: Alan McCoy <amccoy@mail.ewu.edu> >>>>> To: College and University Technicians " <caut@ptg.org> <caut@ptg.org> >>>>> Received: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:45:57 -0700 >>>>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] notching >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> David, >>>>> >>>>>> I built a router jig, described and designed by Bill Spurlock, for years. >>>>>> The notch cuts are never a problem with this jig. Look in the Journal - >>>>>> probably late 80's. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> >>>>>>> Reply-To: <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>, "College and University Technicians >>>>>>> <caut@ptg.org>" <caut@ptg.org> >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:21:19 -0700 >>>>>>> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>, <caut@ptg.org> >>>>>>> Subject: [CAUT] notching >>>>>>> >>>>>>> List, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How are you who do keytops making the notch cut? I'm filing by hand at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> moment... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David I. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >> _______________________________________________ >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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