> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On 11/8/04 12:54 PM, "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Joe, >=20 > If you are not having any noise over the long term, hey sounds good. Th= e > whole idea is to eliminate the rubbing of the top and bottom of the pitma= n > against the tray and lever. I still visulize rubbing in your retro-fit. = The > punching works similar to the Baldwin setup and eliminates any rubbing. = I've > never had a customer mention any concern with the hole in the bottom of t= he > piano, but I think if they were to take a look under the piano they might= just > see some other holes already there and the piano seems to be OK...;-] >=20 > I take it your removing the bushing cloth in the original hole? Never h= aving > any clearance problems? I will admit drilling under the piano is a pain= with > sawdust in the face... >=20 > David Ilvedson Actually, it=B9s Fred, not Joe <g>. Yes, I remove the bushing cloth for more clearance. Sawdust on the face goes together with sawdust on the dark green plush carpet, the noise of drilling into the prized possession =AD people hav= e these emotional connections, and you have to respect them. And there=B9s a good bit of extra work to the =B3Scott Jones design retrofit=B2: find a way to center the larger bit (sometimes you can finesse a Forstner, but for safety=B9s sake you need to install a piece of dowel in the hole as a centering devise, and drill it out along with the extra keybed wood); remov= e leather and drill shallow holes in trapwork underlever and bottom of tray. Lot=B9s more sawdust and time than bringing a prepared substitute pitman, removing the bushing cloth, drilling a hole through the tray leather into the tray and similarly into the trap lever, and installing the pitman. It can even be done without removing the action. 10 - 15 minute job (plus a similar amount of shop time cutting the rod and drilling and pinning it, including set up and put away). I do prefer the Scott Jones design (I think he was the one who came up with it when he was in R & D at S & S), so if I=B9ve got the piano apart for another reason I=B9ll do that. But for someone complaining of too heavy a pedal, or where pitman rubbing is causing excess noise, and where time and effort are at a premium, my method is fast, effective, and long-lasting. You do have to fudge the placement of the pinned pitman toward front or back to avoid rubbing (I forget which =AD I=B9d need to be under a piano to visualize it, I=B9m thinking back), but there=B9s plenty of room. There=B9s no rubbing except for the pins at the end of the pitman in the holes (which need to be a bit oversized for the purpose). Hey, it=B9s the same design Yamaha and much of the rest of the world uses. Regards, Fred Sturm University of New Mexico http://music.unm.edu/about/staff_members/fred_s_sturm.php "There is more to life than increasing its speed." Gandhi ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/a6/ac/f0/ce/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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