Value of an old steinway vertical

Ed Sutton ed440@mindspring.com
Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:32:26 -0400


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Lance-
I found the instruction sheet for this.  I'm surprised to see that Ken =
recommends using pins two sizes larger than the original pins;
I had thought one of the reasons for the epoxy treatment was to allow =
re-use of original pins in historic instruments.
Ah, well....back to the wood shop.
Ed
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  From: llafargue=20
  To: 'College and University Technicians'=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:06 PM
  Subject: RE: Value of an old steinway vertical


  Yes, Ken taught me this and it's been so long since I've done it I =
can't remember details on pin sizes, etc.  I usually make notes, keep =
papers and file away for the next time I do the job.  I have been =
replacing blocks of late.  The Epotek handout gives pin/drill bit info =
(from Ken).  The pins feel great with this method if drilled correctly.  =
I had a baby Chickering with a double flange on the plate and an owner =
with little money.  That was a perfect scenario, and uprights, too.  My =
guess is you won't go from #5's to=20

  # 1's though.    There are many pianos out there with epoxy, including =
some in the Smithsonian Ken did and I'm not sure how they are all doing, =
but I just tuned the Chickering about three months ago and it was great. =
 The ones I did that I still see are all fine.  I did have one old =
upright early on that had inconsistency in the treble pins because as I =
drilled them out I was running into harder wood deep in the holes and it =
caused some vibration in the bit/inconsistent hole sizes.  I think it's =
a great technique to have when needed.  =20

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  Lance Lafargue, RPT

  LAFARGUE PIANOS

  New Orleans Chapter, PTG

  985.72P.IANO

  llafargue@charter.net

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  From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of =
Ed Sutton
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:06 AM
  To: College and University Technicians
  Subject: Re: Value of an old steinway vertical

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  Hi, Lance-

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  I have a paper Ken Eschete wrote on something like this.  Is that the =
method you use?

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  When you do this, do you repin with the same size pins, or is it =
possible to go to a smaller size?

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  A friend of mine has an old Bechstein with open face pinblock which =
has been restrung with #5 pins.  I would like to go back to #1 pins in =
this piano.

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  Does this method give a smooth tuning result...and how long do you =
suppose it lasts?

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  If I think of any more questions, I'll let you know!

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  Thanks!

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  Ed

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    From: llafargue=20

    To: 'College and University Technicians'=20

    Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:04 AM

    Subject: RE: Value of an old steinway vertical

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    I have 2 Steinway uprights (early 1900's) and plan to inject water =
thin optical epoxy (EPOTEK), redrill and restring.  I have done this on =
several uprights and grands where replacing was not an option.  Works =
great.  Nice feel.

    =20

    Lance Lafargue, RPT

    LAFARGUE PIANOS

    New Orleans Chapter, PTG

    985.72P.IANO

    llafargue@charter.net

    =20


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