---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Ed, I agree with Dale about this. Here in Southern California an 1890's Steinway upright might still have a decent pinblock if the piano lived in this climate most of its life, similar to the piano Dale restored. A few real clean examples exist, valuing those is tough since they are so nice, and should fetch more, perhaps quite a bit more.... Original bass strings can be incredible on a Steinway, with even the steel-wound strings coming out great after turning, a rare event for that type of winding. Yes, "ebonized" was common in 19th century pianos, if the plate is clean and undamaged the word will be stamped. Also the Steinway log will say (sadly, one volume was stolen from Steinway recently, and wasn't photocopied, a terrible loss). Bill Shull Shull Piano Inc. 590 E Industrial Rd 2 San Bernardino, CA 92408 (909) 796-4226 In a message dated 4/19/04 6:24:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Erwinspiano@aol.com writes: > hi Ed > Don't panic yet. I paid $250.00 for an 1891 from the Manteca unified > school district about 8 years ago. It was Bahama yellow with pretty flowers & > about to fall over. Its is the one with a myriad of ogees elegant three piece > front & the round fluted legs. The block, board & many things were quite good. > The board has a lot of crown still. Amazing.Restrung with 3s or > 4s,refinish,yes in original ebony, replace the missing three piece cut outs new keytops. > Very beautiful looking& sounding. If I did this today I'd ask 15 k. > My opinion is that stwy uprights like this are worth anywhere between > $500.000 to $1500.00 in original & unbutchered condition. Hey do the math on the > items needed then speculate on the Market value in your area.hmmm. > Dale Erwin > > >> Dear List- >> >> I'm dealing with a difficult situation with a customer who has purchased an >> 1892 Steinway vertical on Ebay. >> >> The piano has been restrung in the plain wire and repinned in the bass, >> "turning the bass strings." The repinning was done with 4/0 pins with >> apparently no preparation of the holes in the pinblock. Pin torque varies wildly, >> with many high treble pins over 225 inch pounds. I cannot imagine now how to >> restring properly without replacing the pinblock. >> >> Raising pitch 80 cents and tuning was miserably difficult, perhaps tuning >> will be manageable when the strings have stabilized....? >> >> Refinishing is a thin black lacquer (were 1890's verticals done in ebony?), >> and the brass lock plate and pedals have been carefully polished. >> >> Hammers have been re-shaped past regulation, key pins turned in the front >> bushings, and key covers glued to fit the notch, with the tips overhanging, >> and no shaping. >> >> The customer had hopes of buying a piano that would become a family >> heirloom. The seller told her the old bass strings were so good that they didn't >> need replacement, and that she could eventually complete the restoration with >> new hammers and dampers. >> >> I would be interested in your opinions of what is the going value of an >> 1892 Steinway vertical, rebuilt to very good playing and tuning condition, and >> what the purchase price of the instrument as it is should be. >> >> Also I would appreciate your comments on the pinblock. >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> Ed Sutton >> > > > > > Erwins Pianos Restorations > 4721 Parker Rd. > Modesto, Ca 95357 > 209-577-8397 > Rebuilt Steinway , Mason &Hamlin Sales > www.Erwinspiano.com > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/98/a5/b2/68/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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