Jim, It was just an attempt at humor. Don't take it personal. We're all friends. I'd hate to start walking on eggshells. My 2 cents worth. Jim Busby, BYU -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of James Ellis Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:10 PM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: Pinning and Tone My earlier post on this subject was not intended to invite insults, and Ed Foote's caustic remark about Oak Ridge Tennessee is not appreciated. We who live here do not "glow in the dark". If this were a "poisoned area", as Ed suggests, then why would those of us who have worked here for years and know it best choose to retire here? Yes, we have our problems, but so do many other places, some much worse than Oak Ridge. This forum is not the place for insults, so please refrain from them. Harace Greeley, Ed Sutton, Conrad Hoffsommer, Michael Jorgensen, and Charles Ball all made astute remarks describing the problems in trying to make measurements of this pinning-and-tonal effect. It's almost impossible to do it, and not introduce some other variable at the same time. Yes, Ed, (Sutton) I have seen the Stamwood flange, and a piano in which it was installed. What some of you might not have seen is an 1877 Chickering that had adjustable tighteners on the flanges - tiny leaf springs attached to the split flanges to maintain constant tightness as the wood and felt swelled and shrunk with changes in relative humidity. If you will look inside the cover of some immediate past JOURNALS, you will see Larry Crabb's picture with that vary piano - one of the first overstrung Chickerings to be made following the expiration of Steinway's patent. The purpose of my post was simply to say that it would be interesting to get some quantitative measurements of this effect so we would no longer have to speculate. Marcel, you said you remember a demonstration by Chris Robinson using a 3-D spectrun analyzer. Perhaps he would be willing to publish something in the JOURNAL. Sincerely, Jim Ellis _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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