Hello

Wolfley, Eric (WOLFLEEL) WOLFLEEL@UCMAIL.UC.EDU
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:01:17 -0500


Chris,

I was involved in almost this same scenario when I was at Miami (Ohio)
University. The building was built in the 60s and had terrible environmental
controls, single-pane glass, etc. I was able to get a technician to
resurrect a steam injector (which had been there all along) and got the
humidity up to 40% in the dead of winter. Everyone thanked me, the pianos
didn't go 40 cents flat, and sounded good. Then all the bad building things
started happening....during a below zero cold snap, all the windows iced up
(1/4 inch thick on some), the doors had so much ice dripping off the bottom
that they wouldn't close, and so on. Soon things were back to normal, and
the pianos all began suffering again. I eventually solved this problem (for
me) by getting a new job here at CCM where everything was supposed to be
state-of-the-art...100 million dollar building complex with, guess what?
Inadequate humidity controls. It's not quite as bad as your building, but we
are still swinging from 20% to 80% RH in some locations. The only saving
grace is that they did design in adequate controls for the concert spaces
(probably because of some state law) which at least saves us the nightmare
of keeping concert instruments stable in such conditions. If you could get
better controls in the concert and recital spaces it would make life better
for you, and perhaps be inexpensive enough for them to consider.

I did an economic analysis here similar to what it sounds like you are doing
(our replacement cost came to $5.5 million!) and figured a modest 5% yearly
depreciation rate due to the bad humidity conditions. This amounted to a
yearly cost of $275,000. They told me thanks for all the good work and filed
it away. I guess they weren't impressed with the trickle-out theory. What
you really need is a good earthquake. I don't want to sound pessimistic, but
I work in the same state system that you do and our budget from the state
has been cut EVERY YEAR for the last 15 years. At least that is what I am
told.

Maybe you can use that 2 million dollar amount as a bargaining chip. A
second technician would probably cost less than 1 million dollars over the
next 30 years. Oh, I forgot...there's probably a hiring freeze until 2010.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Eric Wolfley
Head Piano Technician
Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music
University of Cincinnati
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Christopher D. Purdy [mailto:purdy@oak.cats.ohiou.edu] 
Sent:	Friday, January 24, 2003 11:46 AM
To:	College and University Technicians
Subject:	Re: Hello

Hello John and welcome to the list.

By the number of challenges to John's claim of most extreme humidity 
fluctuations, It is obvious that many, or most, of us have to deal 
with this.  Currently, after decades of complaining, the powers that 
be here at OU hired a consultant to assess our building and HVAC 
system.  They produced a very in depth report that says:

- Our building was built in the sixties and the current HVAC cannot 
provide the humidity control needed in the winter.

- If we install the proper equipment, the building walls have no 
vapor barrier and therefor any increased humidity would simply go 
through the walls and outside.  This would cause steel girders to 
rust and the mortar in the brick to breakdown and actually stain. 
(called efflorescence, for vocabulary buffs)

- Ditto for the roof.

- We also need to replace all the windows since they are single 
glazed and have the insulating qualities of wet newspaper.

They recommend that we replace the windows, and install vapor 
barriers in all outside walls and the roof, and then replace the 
HVAC.  This totals roughly two million bucks.

In anticipation of the inevitable denial of this kind of money (or 
outright laughter), I am preparing a case to lay out just how crucial 
this work is.  I listed the current replacement cost total of all 115 
pianos in my building and by the most amazing coincidence, it comes 
to about $2,110,000.  I am also documenting damage being done to 
pianos and including copies of temp. and humidity records I have been 
keeping for the past two years.

Can anyone recommend anything else that may help my case?  Has anyone 
been through this fight successfully and can suggest anything?

Do any of you have a newer building with state of the art HVAC?  What 
are the results?  Is it worth the work?  Will it actually help or am 
I howling in vain?

Thank you and happy pitch raising!
Chris
-- 
Christopher D. Purdy R.P.T.
School of Music, Ohio University
Athens, Ohio  45701
(740) 593-1656
fax (740) 593-1429
purdy@ohiou.edu
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