This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Isaac sur Noos=20 To: Don A. Gilmore=20 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: RE: Touch Weight Don, hello, I guess I get it.=20 May I understand correctly that the angular position does not change = the static balancing or is it only m.o.i that is unaffected ? (say that = because wehn we change the attack angle of a key we change leverage, I = also wandered if there is some effect in regard of the mass itself) Well, I think I'm following you. We have the term "static = balancing" in engineering, but I'm not sure if it has the same meaning = as in your profession. We consider static balancing that which balances = a pivoted object when at rest. Let's consider a fan blade. If a fan = blade is out of balance, one blade will tend to sag to the bottom due to = gravity. When it is properly statically balanced, you can rotate it to = any position and it will stay; the center of gravity is exactly at the = pivot point. Static balancing is all about gravity. [In contrast there = is also "dynamic" balancing which takes into effect rotation. An object = can actually be in perfect static balance and not be dynamically = balanced]. The angle of placement of a weight does affect its balancing = properties since gravity is always in a plumb direction. For example, = if you place a weight three inches to the right of a pivot it can = counterbalance an equal moment on the other side, like a scale. But if = you place it three inches above the pivot it doesn't balance anything = since gravity acts directly toward the pivot and there is no leverage. = However, either of these placements of the weight would result in the = same moment of inertia, since you have the same raduis and the same = mass. Confused yet? Let's consider moment of inertia in terms of a "black box" with a = shaft sticking out of it. If you turn the shaft and it is hard to start = turning and then hard to stop (as if there were a flywheel in the box), = it has a high m.o.i. If it is easy to turn (as if there were just a = plain shaft in the box) then it has a lower m.o.i. What the rotary = object in the box looks like is immaterial. It might be a round wheel, = or it might be a hammer pivoted at the base of its handle. But any two = objects with the same moment of inertia will feel exactly the same = (neglecting gravity) when you twist the shaft, no matter what they look = like. Think of m.o.i. like "rotational mass". =20 Balancing is affected by gravity; inertia is not. If you took your = black box to the moon, or out into space with zero gravity, the shaft = would be exactly as difficult to accelerate and stop when you turn it as = is was on earth. The same is true of mass. A 275 lb. football = linebacker may only weigh 90 lbs. on the moon, but he will hit you just = as hard if he tackles you there as he would in Green Bay, since he has = the same mass. Thanks for your analysis and words it helps ! We piano technicians = have generally a small undertanding of what goes on in the action really = ! On the contrary, some friends that studyed accoustics and physics at a = somehow interesting level said me that their understanding was not = really helpful when it comes to tune, regulate and voice a piano ! Best regards and good late Christmas shopping ! BTW, Are you the inventor of the "self tuning piano system", or may = is miss something ? if it is the case, I have a few questions I like to = understand some points on the process, if you don't care. Yes, that's me. I wrote an article in the Journal about it in July = 2002. The PTG asked me to join after that. I would be glad to answer = any of your questions (or anyone else) about the system. Don A. Gilmore Mechanical Engineer Kansas City Greetings. Isaac OLEG ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/ec/ef/db/e4/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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