----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol R. Beigel" <crbrpt@bellatlantic.net> To: <caut@ptg.org> Sent: January 11, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Feltmakers vs. Hammermakers > So Del, what kind of hammers do YOU recommend on Steinway grands, and > Japanese uprights? > > Carol Beigel --------------------------------------- Carol, On the Steinway grands we remanufacture -- that is, with new and redesigned boards and scales -- we use mostly Isaacs, Ronsen or, believe it or not, Steinway hammers. Our criteria is that they be relatively soft, i.e., not dense. There are problems with all of them. Isaacs tends to leave way to much felt down on the shoulders which has to be laboriously removed, but the end result is exceptionally good. These are probably our first choice for Model A's and larger. I like Ronsen because they are nicely resilient. I don't like their shape much and their consistency is always a problem. You never know just what you are going to get from them. But, when you get a good set, they are really great. I like these on smaller pianos especially. For me, personally, I would use Steinway hammers. Ordered without any factory work done to them at all. I.e., just as they come from the press. That way I can be sure they are reasonably symmetrical and not shaped to shape. In my opinion, Steinway has the capability of making one of the best hammers around today. They use excellent felt and their press work is reasonably good when the press operator is careful to center the felt strip over the caul properly and then keep it centered through the press cycle. It's what they do to their hammers after they press them that is the problem. Their quality control -- consistency -- does leave much to be desired, but what do you expect for the price? Still, when cleaned up and sanded -- not 'shaped!' -- and needled down just a bit, they make beautiful sounds. No, we do not saturate them with either lacquer or keytops. As I've said before, if the soundboard is well matched to the scale and is working well, hard/dense hammers are not only not necessary, they are an impediment to good piano tone. Hence, we find that we usually have to needle Steinway hammers; Ronsen's and Isaacs' too, for that matter. If anything gets lacquered at all it is in the top four to six hammers in the treble and I apologize to them as I do it. We also try other hammers from time to time. Right we have a set of Abel hammers on a Steinway A3 we've just finishing up. The sound was initially so hard and strident we very nearly took them off and replaced them. Since we figured there was nothing to lose, we tried saturating them with alcohol and water. Yes, I do mean saturating them -- right to the core and then some more. They puffed up and I sanded them back down to their original size, tried them in the piano and then did it again. The puffed up some more -- though not as much -- and I sanded them back down again. Tried them in the piano and did it a third time. Again, they puffed up, though this time just a little. I then sanded them down one more time and I was just about there. (By the way, during this time touch weight went from approximately 62 to 64 grams downweight down to 52 to 54 grams downweight with the original key leading -- three towards the end of the key through the bass.) A bit of needling through the tenor and first treble section brought it nicely in line. And yes, it is still bright enough. It has since been used twice in small recitals, once in a large ski lodge with an audience of about 200 and then in a large hotel banquet room with an audience of approximately 500. In neither case was any amplification needed, nor would it have been desirable or appropriate. The piano is quite loud enough and bright enough on its own, thank you very much. (It's also now for sale, in case anybody is interested!) I've not used Renner hammers for some years. They make a very nice looking hammer and one that seems to be quite consistent. So consistent that I had to take off and replace the last three sets we used. I simply couldn't bring them down enough to make them work. If they have softened up any, I'd love to hear some personal experiences. (No, I've not tried the alcohol/water treatment on Renner hammers. I'll not try it again on Abel hammers either. I'll just not use Abel hammers on our remanufactured pianos. They might well work better on pianos using original soundboards -- I've no recent experience there.) Regards, Del
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