electronic pianos

David Graham dcgrpt@earthlink.net
Fri Feb 23 20:13 MST 2001


Mitch et al: another point to consider is ALL the uses of those pianos in
those rooms. Our classrooms @ NIU are used for little area-specific recitals
(winds,voice, etc) every week.  The voice faculty in particular wold raise
howls of protest at such an idea!
---
David Graham <dcgrpt@earthlink.net>


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>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:18:12 -0500
>From: Newton Hunt <nhunt@optonline.net>
>Subject: Re: studio upright pianos
>
>Yamaha P-1 or P22.
>
>  Newton
>
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>
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:42:11 -0600 (CST)
>From: Dennis Johnson <johnsond@stolaf.edu>
>Subject: Re: studio upright pianos
>
>The P22 is basic and affordable so we have quite a few also, but I go for
>the U1 whenever possible. We've got several U1's and a couple U3's. Both
>are excellent uprights. I only wish they would design a more pianist
>friendly and accommodating music rack for the U series.
>
>
>Dennis Johnson
>St. Olaf College 
>
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>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:00:41 -0500
>From: "Mitch Staples" <staples.13@osu.edu>
>Subject: electronic pianos 
>
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>thought of the idea of having=20
>electronic pianos in the classrooms rather than acoustic.  They figure =
>that this way they could use=20
>some of the mounds of money slated for technology i. e. computers to buy =
>pianos.  My reply was quite=20
>predictably that I thought it was a bad idea. =20
>
>I would like some input:
>
>1.  Does anyone have experience with electronic pianos in classrooms?  =
>Are they working out?
>
>2.  I would like to hear some opinions.  What do you see as the pros and =
>cons?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mitch Staples
>Ohio State University
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><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like some input:</FONT></DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1.&nbsp; Does anyone have experience =
>with=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2.&nbsp; I would like to hear some =
>opinions.  What=20
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><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:27:25 -0800
>From: "Jeannie Grassi" <jgrassi@silverlink.net>
>Subject: RE: studio upright pianos
>
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>Hi Vince,
>I hope you'll share your responses with us all as many of us are in a
>similar situation.  It would be good info to have.
>
>Thanks,
>jeannie
>
>Jeannie Grassi, RPT
>Associate Editor, Piano Technicians Journal
>mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: owner-caut@ptg.org [mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Vince
>Mrykalo
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:15 AM
>  To: caut@ptg.org
>  Subject: studio upright pianos
>
>
>  I would like to know what make of upright piano(s) your school buys.  Here
>at BYU we are looking at an alternative to Yamaha P22s.  If any of you have
>a different line you like, or use, and have a minute, drop me a note and
>tell me about it.  I would like to use your input for my justification to
>change or not.
>
>  Vinny
>  <mailto:vince@byu.edu>
>
>  THE TOP TEN SIGNS THAT YOUR CO-WORKER IS A COMPUTER HACKER
>  10. You ticked him off once and your next phone bill was
>  $20,000.
>  9. He's won the Publisher's Clearing House sweepstakes three
>  years running.
>  8. When asked for his phone number, he gives it in hex.
>  7. Seems strangely calm whenever the office LAN goes down.
>  6. Somehow he/she gets HBO on his PC at work.
>  5. Mumbled, "Oh, puh-leeez" 95 times during the movie "The
>  Net"
>  4. Massive RRSP contribution made in half-cent increments.
>  3. Video dating profile lists "public-key encryption" among
>  turn-ons
>  2. When his computer starts up, you hear, "Good Morning, Mr.
>  President."
>  1. You hear him murmur, "Let's see you use that Visa card
>  now, jerk."
>
>
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>class=3D500342104-22022001>Hi=20
>Vince,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
>class=3D500342104-22022001>I hope=20
>you'll share your responses with us all as many of us are in a similar=20
>situation.&nbsp; It would be good info to have.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
>class=3D500342104-22022001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
>class=3D500342104-22022001>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
>class=3D500342104-22022001>jeannie</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
>class=3D500342104-22022001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
>class=3D500342104-22022001>
><P><FONT size=3D2>Jeannie Grassi, RPT<BR>Associate Editor, Piano =
>Technicians=20
>Journal<BR><A href=3D"mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net"=20
>target=3D_blank>mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net</A><BR></FONT></P></SPAN></=
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><BLOCKQUOTE>
>  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
>  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-caut@ptg.org =
>
>  [mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Vince =
>Mrykalo<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
>  Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
>  caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> studio upright =
>pianos<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>I=20
>  would like to know what make of upright piano(s) your school =
>buys.&nbsp; Here=20
>  at BYU we are looking at an alternative to Yamaha P22s.&nbsp; If any =
>of you=20
>  have a different line you like, or use, and have a minute, drop me a =
>note and=20
>  tell me about it.&nbsp; I would like to use your input for my =
>justification to=20
>  change or not.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR><B>Vinny<BR></B><I>&lt;<A=20
>  href=3D"mailto:vince@byu.edu"=20
>  eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:vince@byu.edu</A>&gt;<BR><BR></I>THE TOP TEN =
>SIGNS=20
>  THAT YOUR CO-WORKER IS A COMPUTER HACKER<BR>10. You ticked him off =
>once and=20
>  your next phone bill was <BR>$20,000. <BR>9. He's won the Publisher's =
>Clearing=20
>  House sweepstakes three <BR>years running. <BR>8. When asked for his =
>phone=20
>  number, he gives it in hex. <BR>7. Seems strangely calm whenever the =
>office=20
>  LAN goes down. <BR>6. Somehow he/she gets HBO on his PC at work. =
><BR>5.=20
>  Mumbled, "Oh, puh-leeez" 95 times during the movie "The <BR>Net" =
><BR>4.=20
>  Massive RRSP contribution made in half-cent increments. <BR>3. Video =
>dating=20
>  profile lists "public-key encryption" among <BR>turn-ons <BR>2. When =
>his=20
>  computer starts up, you hear, "Good Morning, Mr. <BR>President." =
><BR>1. You=20
>  hear him murmur, "Let's see you use that Visa card <BR>now,=20
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>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:42:33 -0500
>From: thepianoarts <thepianoarts@home.com>
>Subject: Re: electronic pianos 
>
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>Mitch,
>
>   From a composers point of view, in the educaional arena, other than for
>'class piano' use, one great advantage of electronic pianos (via MIDI)  is
>their ability to translate music  into multitrack / tambre sequence's for
>composition students,  and their use for notation programs. They are great
>tools. Their (ele. keyboards) success in the real world of commercial music,
>(recording & performing)  and where the jobs are after graduation,  has made
>it necessary to include them in a music program.  Not a substitute for a
>piano though. 
>   The theory and comp professors and students want some, right? The piano
>majors want the real thing.
>
>Dan Reed
>
>PS  Kind of like comparing the differences between electric and acoustic
>guitars...
>
>
>on 2/21/01 10:00 PM, Mitch Staples at staples.13@osu.edu wrote:
>
>This afternoon I was asked by the director of the school of music what I
>thought of the idea of having
>electronic pianos in the classrooms rather than acoustic.  They figure that
>this way they could use
>some of the mounds of money slated for technology i. e. computers to buy
>pianos.  My reply was quite
>predictably that I thought it was a bad idea.
> 
>I would like some input:
> 
>1.  Does anyone have experience with electronic pianos in classrooms?  Are
>they working out?
> 
>2.  I would like to hear some opinions.  What do you see as the pros and
>cons?
> 
>
>Thanks,
> 
>Mitch Staples
>Ohio State University
>
>
>
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>Mitch,<BR>
><BR>
> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From a composers point of view, in the educaional arena,=
> other than for 'class piano' use, one great advantage of electronic pianos =
>(via MIDI) &nbsp;is their ability to translate music &nbsp;into multitrack /=
> tambre sequence's for composition students, &nbsp;and their use for notatio=
>n programs. They are great tools. Their (ele. keyboards) success in the real=
> world of commercial music, (recording &amp; performing) &nbsp;and where the=
> jobs are after graduation, &nbsp;has made it necessary to include them in a=
> music program. &nbsp;Not a substitute for a piano though. <BR>
> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The theory and comp professors and students want some, r=
>ight? The piano majors want the real thing. <BR>
><BR>
>Dan Reed<BR>
><BR>
>PS &nbsp;Kind of like comparing the differences between electric and acoust=
>ic guitars...<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>on 2/21/01 10:00 PM, Mitch Staples at staples.13@osu.edu wrote:<BR>
><BR>
><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">This afternoon I was asked by=
> the director of the school of music what I thought of the idea of having <B=
>R>
>electronic pianos in the classrooms rather than acoustic. &nbsp;They figure=
> that this way they could use <BR>
>some of the mounds of money slated for technology i. e. computers to buy pi=
>anos. &nbsp;My reply was quite <BR>
>predictably that I thought it was a bad idea. &nbsp;<BR>
></FONT></FONT> <BR>
><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I would like some input:<BR>
></FONT></FONT> <BR>
><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">1. &nbsp;Does anyone have experience with=
> electronic pianos in classrooms? &nbsp;Are they working out?<BR>
></FONT></FONT> <BR>
><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">2. &nbsp;I would like to hear some opinio=
>ns. &nbsp;What do you see as the pros and cons?<BR>
></FONT></FONT> <BR>
> <BR>
><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks,<BR>
></FONT></FONT> <BR>
><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Mitch Staples<BR>
>Ohio State University<BR>
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>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:15:07 -0600
>From: John Baird <jbaird@fgi.net>
>Subject: Straight flute reamers - was Gun Brush Size
>
>Check in the July 1991 PTG Journal, page 10, for info on straight flute
>reamers.
>
>The letter (I.) reamer, diameter .2770 part #EDP30820 works well for the
>3/O tuning pins. The letter (K) to be used for 4/O pins part #EDP30822
>with diameter
>.2820.
>
>These tools can be ordered through: Jack Benedict, Austin For Logan,
>Inc.; 1500 Kenmore Avenue; Buffalo, NY 14226 (716) 875-3770 or FAX (726)
>875-
>8280 (this contact information is from the 1991 Journal, so it may not
>be up-to-date).
>
>John Baird
>
>Jon Page wrote:
>
>> At 03:54 PM 02/20/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>> >List,
>> >
>> >Can someone tell me the size of gun barrel brush to
>> >use to clean out tuning pin holes before restringing?
>> >(Using the original block)
>> >
>> >Thanks.
>> >Avery
>>
>> Avery,
>>
>> .030 caliber
>>
>> Jon Page
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:32:20 -0500
>From: Lawrence Becker <lawrence.becker@uc.edu>
>Subject: Re: Angela Hewitt
>
>All-
>
>Ms. Hewitt will be playing a concert here in Cincinnati this Sunday 2/25 as 
>part of the Xavier Piano Series.  She is scheduled to play Capriccio in Bb, 
>BWV 992 & Toccata in Cmin, BWV 911 by Bach, Variations & Fugue in Eb, Op.35 
>by Beethoven, Ravel's Miroirs, and a Fantasia from Annees de Pelerinage II, 
>No. 7 by Liszt.
>
>For those of you who have prepared pianos for her, any advice?  Sounds like 
>evenness of voicing is high on her list.  Also, though I will probably keep 
>the piano in ET, I would like to hear suggestions as to what may be a 
>suitable temperament for such a program.  Ed?  Others?
>
>Lawrence
>
>Lawrence Becker, RPT
>Piano Technician
>University of Cincinnati
>College-Conservatory of Music
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:50:34 -0600
>From: Richard West <rwest1@unl.edu>
>Subject: Re: electronic pianos
>
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>Mitch:
>
>We have been buying Disklaviers with technology money.  Otherwise you
>have to ask how long a well-maintained accoustic piano will last
>compared to an electronic keyboard.  Universities don't always think
>long term, but I still think the accoustic option is preferable and will
>give longer service.  But I'm prejudiced.  Does anyone know the life
>expectancy of a decent electronic keyboard?  Are they like
>computers--every 5 years buy a new one to get all the new upgrades and
>updated bells and whistles?
>
>Richard West
>University of Nebraska
>
>Mitch Staples wrote:
>
>> This afternoon I was asked by the director of the school of music what
>> I thought of the idea of havingelectronic pianos in the classrooms
>> rather than acoustic.  They figure that this way they could usesome of
>> the mounds of money slated for technology i. e. computers to buy
>> pianos.  My reply was quitepredictably that I thought it was a bad
>> idea. I would like some input: 1.  Does anyone have experience with
>> electronic pianos in classrooms?  Are they working out? 2.  I would
>> like to hear some opinions. What do you see as the pros and
>> cons?  Thanks, Mitch StaplesOhio State University
>
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>Mitch:
><p>We have been buying Disklaviers with technology money.&nbsp; Otherwise
>you have to ask how long a well-maintained accoustic piano will last compared
>to an electronic keyboard.&nbsp; Universities don't always think long term,
>but I still think the accoustic option is preferable and will give longer
>service.&nbsp; But I'm prejudiced.&nbsp; Does anyone know the life expectancy
>of a decent electronic keyboard?&nbsp; Are they like computers--every 5
>years buy a new one to get all the new upgrades and updated bells and whistles?
><p>Richard West
><br>University of Nebraska
><p>Mitch Staples wrote:
><blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>This
>afternoon I was asked by the director of the school of music what I thought
>of the idea of having</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>electronic
>pianos in the classrooms rather than acoustic.&nbsp; They figure that this
>way they could use</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>some of
>the mounds of money slated for technology i. e. computers to buy pianos.&nbsp;
>My reply was quite</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>predictably
>that I thought it was a bad idea.</font></font>&nbsp;<font 
>face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
>would like some input:</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>1.&nbsp;
>Does anyone have experience with electronic pianos in classrooms?&nbsp;
>Are they working out?</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>2.&nbsp;
>I would like to hear some opinions. What do you see as the pros and 
>cons?</font></font>&nbsp;&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font 
>size=-1>Thanks,</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Mitch
>Staples</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Ohio State 
>University</font></font></blockquote>
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>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:58:28 -0600
>From: Avery Todd <atodd@UH.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Angela Hewitt
>
>Lawrence,
>
>As you may remember, Angela recently performed the same program
>here at the University of Houston.
>
>You're correct about the evenness of the voicing. And of course,
>just in general, good regulation and damping. A few specific
>things to look out for that I had a little problem with here
>(solved, though) :-):
>
>1. In general, very good repetition with no excess friction,
>specifically from around the middle on up a ways for trills in
>the Bach. Sorry, I don't remember the specific notes. She'll
>tell you if she has problems with that!
>
>2. Damping, particularly on the lowest triple unison in the
>bass (Bb1) assuming a Steinway 'D'. (There's a spot in the
>Beethoven where it repeatedly jumps down to the octave Bb1 & Bb2.
>If it doesn't shut off quickly, it starts to bother her because
>it happens several times consecutively.)
>
>3. Extremely fast single note repetition on F#4 and G#4 (I believe
>were the notes) for the Ravel. I don't remember what it's called
>but it's when the pianist 'strokes' the key with all 4 fingers.
>FAST! She'll also tell you about this. In performance, the spot
>that had that sounded like a machine gun repeating, it was so fast.
>
>She was very gracious, friendly and enjoyable to work with. Of
>course, it may have helped that I "stroked" her a little by being
>around, asking about any problems, etc. :-)
>
>Other than that, nothing specific. Her problems on your piano (if
>any) may differ from the ones I had but these are some particular
>things to watch for. It was a fantastic recital. Do the best
>possible and relax and enjoy the recital. I don't think you'll be
>disappointed!
>
>Regards,
>Avery
>
>>Ms. Hewitt will be playing a concert here in Cincinnati this Sunday 2/25 as
>>part of the Xavier Piano Series.  She is scheduled to play Capriccio in Bb,
>>BWV 992 & Toccata in Cmin, BWV 911 by Bach, Variations & Fugue in Eb, Op.35
>>by Beethoven, Ravel's Miroirs, and a Fantasia from Annees de Pelerinage II,
>>No. 7 by Liszt.
>>
>>For those of you who have prepared pianos for her, any advice?  Sounds like
>>evenness of voicing is high on her list.  Also, though I will probably keep
>>the piano in ET, I would like to hear suggestions as to what may be a
>>suitable temperament for such a program.  Ed?  Others?
>>
>>Lawrence
>>
>>Lawrence Becker, RPT
>>Piano Technician
>>University of Cincinnati
>>College-Conservatory of Music
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:02:47 -0600
>From: Avery Todd <atodd@UH.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Straight flute reamers - was Gun Brush Size
>
>John,
>
>Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, 1991 was during a time
>period when I wasn't a member. My predecessor here left some old
>Journals, so I'll check through them, just to be sure.
>
>I KNEW I should have already ordered the new Journal CD!
>
>Avery
>
>>Check in the July 1991 PTG Journal, page 10, for info on straight flute
>>reamers.
>>
>>The letter (I.) reamer, diameter .2770 part #EDP30820 works well for the
>>3/O tuning pins. The letter (K) to be used for 4/O pins part #EDP30822
>>with diameter
>>.2820.
>>
>>These tools can be ordered through: Jack Benedict, Austin For Logan,
>>Inc.; 1500 Kenmore Avenue; Buffalo, NY 14226 (716) 875-3770 or FAX (726)
>>875-
>>8280 (this contact information is from the 1991 Journal, so it may not
>>be up-to-date).
>>
>>John Baird
>>
>>Jon Page wrote:
>>
>>> At 03:54 PM 02/20/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>>> >List,
>>> >
>>> >Can someone tell me the size of gun barrel brush to
>>> >use to clean out tuning pin holes before restringing?
>>> >(Using the original block)
>>> >
>>> >Thanks.
>>> >Avery
>>>
>>> Avery,
>>>
>>> .030 caliber
>>>
>>> Jon Page
>
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>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:35:15 -0700
>From: Vince Mrykalo <Vince@byu.edu>
>Subject: Re: electronic pianos
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>Richard West has a valid point re: 5 years of use out of keyboards.  We buy
>Disklaviers too instead of Clavinovas, or the like.  However, we put
>Clavinovas, which we get on a loan program, in some of the practice rooms (in
>leu of uprights) which compliment the Disklaviers which we have in many of the
>teaching studios. The Clavinovas are turned over every year.   
>
>At 10:00 PM 2/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: 
>>
>> This afternoon I was asked by the director of the school of music what I
>> thought of the idea of having 
>> electronic pianos in the classrooms rather than acoustic.  They figure that
>> this way they could use 
>> some of the mounds of money slated for technology i. e. computers to buy
>> pianos.  My reply was quite 
>> predictably that I thought it was a bad idea.  
>>  
>> I would like some input:
>>  
>> 1.  Does anyone have experience with electronic pianos in classrooms?  Are
>> they working out?
>>  
>> 2.  I would like to hear some opinions. What do you see as the pros and
>cons?
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Mitch Staples
>> Ohio State University
>
>
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>Richard West has a valid point re: 5 years of use out of keyboards.&nbsp;
>We buy Disklaviers too instead of Clavinovas, or the like.&nbsp; However,
>we put Clavinovas, which we get on a loan program, in some of the
>practice rooms (in leu of uprights) which compliment the Disklaviers
>which we have in many of the teaching studios. The Clavinovas are turned
>over every year.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
><br>
>At 10:00 PM 2/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: <br>
><font face="arial" size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>This afternoon I was
>asked by the director of the school of music what I thought of the idea
>of having </font><br>
><font size=2>electronic pianos in the classrooms rather than
>acoustic.&nbsp; They figure that this way they could use </font><br>
><font size=2>some of the mounds of money slated for technology i. e.
>computers to buy pianos.&nbsp; My reply was quite </font><br>
><font size=2>predictably that I thought it was a bad idea.&nbsp;
></font><br>
><font size=3> <br>
></font><font face="arial" size=2>I would like some input:</font><br>
><font size=3> <br>
></font><font face="arial" size=2>1.&nbsp; Does anyone have experience
>with electronic pianos in classrooms?&nbsp; Are they working
>out?</font><br>
><font size=3> <br>
></font><font face="arial" size=2>2.&nbsp; I would like to hear some
>opinions. What do you see as the pros and cons?</font><br>
><font size=3> <br>
> <br>
></font><font face="arial" size=2>Thanks,</font><br>
><font size=3> <br>
></font><font face="arial" size=2>Mitch Staples</font><br>
><font size=2>Ohio State University</font><br>
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