HT Experience

[Horace Greeley]

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Bob,

Several years ago, I was one of the very first people to be blasted by Mr. 
Bremmer on pianotech.  It was an ugly, unfortunate series of incidents 
which I do not choose to repeat.  He is, in fact, the major reason that I 
(and several others) no longer actively participate on pianotech.  Mail 
from or to him, referencing him in a subject line, etc., is automatically 
filtered to the trash by my email program.  So far, CAUT has been a haven 
from his brand of exploitive, demeaning vilification.  Since this list is 
not filtered as to membership, it has always been a question of time before 
he posts here, as well, and that will probably drive me away from this 
venue, too.

So far, in the interval since that nasty period, my mode has been to reply 
privately to individuals who raise issues about which I feel that I may 
have something constructive to offer.  Other than that, I remain a silent 
observer on pianotech.  I know that other, above average technicians have 
chosen the same path.

I think that what I am asking here is that, however you need to respond to 
the Bill Bremmers of the world, please do not so raise their consciousness 
of this list that we wind up with the same issues here.  That his presence 
on the other list actively limits the input and freedom of exchange which 
makes this method of communication so essential and crucial to the 
profession is self-evident.  There are simply too few sources of real 
knowledge available to us.  None of us have any hope of having all the 
answers.  Every time _anyone_ (including those annoying apprentice-level 
types who somehow manage to ask the very questions that the rest of us 
really should be asking) drops out, we all suffer.  The most that we can 
hope to do is to be of sufficient service to each other so that the 
profession does not go the way of the dodo altogether.

While I respect Andy's philosophical commitment to open lists, Bill (and a 
very small number of others) through his consistent refusal to behave 
within reasonable bounds of common courtesy, push that commitment well past 
its reasonably foreseeable limits.  That being the case, the options left 
available to the rest of us are appallingly limited.

End of rant.

Horace




At 12:54 PM 10/21/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <<mailto:Billbrpt@AOL.COM>Billbrpt@AOL.COM>
>To: <<mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:57 PM
>Subject: Re: HT Experience
>
> > Ah Baloney!  .  You gotta get people up in arms and going up to the piano,
> > banging on it, holding their ears, shaking their heads, grimacing and 
> walking
> > out steaming!  Now you're gettin' somewhere!
>
> > Bill Bremmer RPT
> > Madison, Wisconsin
>Bill,
>
>Out of genuine curiosity..what would your world be like if, lets say you were
>a chartered accountant. Would you insist that the abacus is the only way to
>go. Fill out your tax form using Roman Numerals, (not a bad idea) or come
>up with a completely different logarithmic table?
>After all....you say you are 15 years ahead of us all if I read you 
>correctly.
>
>ET has its place...HT as well. I use one or the other where applicable. 
>Simple.
>This topic seems to becoming a bit long in the tooth..definitely 
>repetitive, if not
>a tad obsessive in some cases.
>
>No grins, (can't stand those), no abbreviations, no smiley faces...just my 
>humble
>opinion, and.. since you can't hear me, said in a soft sincere voice.
>
>Bob Moffatt
>Calgary, Alberta
>Canada
>

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