Hi, Michael - Here's a stab at an 'intuitive' answer to your question: If you leave everything else the same (i.e., length and tension), increasing the diameter of wire will also increase the mass. This will lower the vibrating frequency. You can compensate for the lowered frequency by increasing the tension on the larger diameter wire - BANG! Both the vibrating frequency and the breaking strength are related to the cross-sectional area of the wire. Increasing the diameter gives increased strength, but lower frequency. It's a trade-off that you cannot win if the speaking length is too long - which it is in your example. Since the piano presumably worked at one time, but not now after rebuilding, I'd suspect that the relationship between the bridge and plate has changed. In other words, the strings are slightly longer now than originally. I like Horace's hypothesis about the magic in 19th c. wire. That's certainly well documented as regards 17th c. harpsichord wire. However, I think that in both old piano wire and old harps wire the charm lies in the warmth of tone, not in superior strength. I think modern music wire is probably the strongest yet. - Tom McNeil, RPT - Vermont Piano Restorations In a message dated 98-06-04 13:56:38 EDT, you write: << ts a shomer grand. You should ignore the column that has the gauge of the wire listed. My point is well taken with Mr. Greely's contribution, gauge has nothing to do with the breaking point of the wire even though it seems it should have everything to do with it. Equation for tension is: Tension = (frequency^2 + Length^2 + diameter^2)/434 Equation for Break pt.: % break point = tension/(2528 * diameter^2) So the diameter^2 in the denominator of the "% brake point" equation cancels out the diameter^2 in the tension equation. So % brake point is independent of the diameter of the string. This means you can try all kinds of gauge sizes and it will never alleviate the string brakeage problem. Now, this seems counterintuitive to me but I know its right. Can someone explain it? Michael Wathen
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